In this episode of the Asymmetry podcast, we return to a key concept from our stream this week: the impact a container can have on the bonsai within. Ryan sat with revered bonsai ceramicist Sara Rayner. In the beginning, Rayner’s work was controversial: her work is aesthetically distinctive and strong in comparison to quieter, more traditional Japanese ceramics that can disappear behind a tree. The boldness and deviation from the norm in her work has heavily influenced the model of freedom American bonsai practitioners work within today. To listen to this episode and all past episodes of Asymmetry, subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.